Building a NeoRam Ram expansion memory cartridge for the C64 computer

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Ok, thanks for the information it is much appreciated.


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Hi Zippy Zapp,

I was just checking on the data sheet for the HM628512 SOIC RAM chips and noticed a few variants.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... ac4TPho6BY


There's a 'LV' low voltage and a regular version amongst others from what I can tell.

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Would you happen to know what type of HM628512 SOIC RAM chips you have on your PCB? Thanks. :D



It seems you had much better success at the reliability of your RAM chips than I had.

I am getting more PCB boards delivered and I will order Ram chips from the links you used.
I want to see if I can achieve similar success to you.
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banman wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:31 pm Would you happen to know what type of HM628512 SOIC RAM chips you have on your PCB? Thanks.
They are HM628512CLFP-7
It seems you had much better success at the reliability of your RAM chips than I had.

I am getting more PCB boards delivered and I will order Ram chips from the links you used.
I want to see if I can achieve similar success to you.
I only built one board. I have another with 2 RAM chips installed but haven't finished it. I am waiting for new boards to arrive that are ENIG because the ones I ordered from PCBWay were for just testing are not ENIG.
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Hi Zippy Zapp,


Great, thank you for that information.



I checked the datasheet out for the Hitachi HM628512CLFP-7 RAM chips out. I think the C means CMOS and the L & P means Low Power. I am not quite sure what the F stands for.


https://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet ... LFP-7.html

NeoRam Datasheet Hitachi Battery Backup.jpg

It does indeed appear to be suitable for battery backup solutions.

Eslapion mentioned a PCB manufacturer called JLCPCB. I looked at their site. The prices for standard HASL boards were very cheap compared to PCBway's. I ended up ordering 20 various PCB's for $30 AUD including delivery.

I am not sure if this was a first time customer purchase or their regular price. I will try get some HM628512CLFP-7 like you have Zippy Zapp and see if it's my awful construction skills or the those Cypress RAM chips I used were doggy.
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banman wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:24 am ...
Eslapion mentioned a PCB manufacturer called JLCPCB. I looked at their site. The prices for standard HASL boards were very cheap compared to PCBway's. I ended up ordering 20 various PCB's for $30 AUD including delivery.
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Hi eslapion,


I appreciate your help. :D

I got a message from JLCPCB 2 days ago saying that the PCB boards have been shipped.
I had them shipped economy, I imagine that they will take a few weeks to arrive.
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I see you get a few choices for board thickness. Was there a standard back then? I see some of my carts are not as thick as others. Epyx Fast load seems to be less than modern boards. What thickness do you typically use?
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Zippy Zapp wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:21 pm I see you get a few choices for board thickness. Was there a standard back then? I see some of my carts are not as thick as others. Epyx Fast load seems to be less than modern boards. What thickness do you typically use?
Standard PCBs are 1/16" or 1.6mm. This includes PCBs for C64 cartridges.
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Hi Zippy Zapp and eslapion,


I believe I have ordered all boards with 1.6 mm thickness from JLCPCB. I will check them when they arrive.
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Thanks guys. @banman, did you order with beveling? Just curious if the NeoRAM has the required space at the edge.
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