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Different C64

Post by radron5809 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:09 am

Anybody know anything about this C64? Has ESC key instead of back arrow and keys colored different. I have 8 C64s and this is the only one with this look.
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Re: Different C64

Post by radron5809 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:31 am

Wondering if someone used multiple keyboards to make a good one. Not sure if the VIC-20 ESC key would fit on a C64, but I think the VIC-20 had ESC key instead of back arrow

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Re: Different C64

Post by radron5809 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:42 am

Don't think it came this way. Somebody on Facebook mentioned it's probably off a C16.

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Re: Different C64

Post by TMR » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:13 am

Yeah, it's a mixture of C64 and C16 key caps, the former mostly being used in places where the two keyboards don't match (apart from that Escape key where the back arrow would be) and that's probably a must unless you at least sort of touch type and don't need to look at the keys. =-)

The VIC's keyboard doesn't have an Escape key, it's the same layout as the C64 and fully compatible - I ran my workhorse Breadbin with a VIC keyboard for a few years after the one it came with started getting ropey and then swapped again for a C16 keyboard, but that does need the circuit board under the keys swapping out. The latter Frankenkeyboard is, a few services later, still in use on a C64C to this day.
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Re: Different C64

Post by Gyro Gearloose » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:59 pm

At one point in time there were a lot of surplus and junked Commodore parts and keyboards at surplus stores. I also made a custom keyboard by changing keycaps like that.
As a matter of fact, my first C64 was built from a 4064 board that was sold cheap. The 4064 was simply a 64 board in a PET casing, however the SID was missing and the boot colors were different, so off to surplus it went.
I was able to jam it into a VIC case and it worked!
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Re: Different C64

Post by eslapion » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:54 am

I too am the proud owner of a VIC-20 with a keyboard that's a mishmash of VIC-20 and C16 keys.
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Re: Different C64

Post by Baber64 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:18 pm

Sometimes I mixed keys as well, if they were available.

Remember that the C64 started as a $599 expensive business machine. The first run had a number of chip issues (such as with uneven SID sound), and they updated a number of motherboard issues with later C64s. Maybe it's a first-year 64 you have there?

When I was in school, they had a whole wall of PET machines with the integrated monitors. That was 1985!

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